WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Sven Roeder 3:29 Wed Jan 20
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
India are just getting ridiculous now

277/1 with 13 overs to make 71 and they are all out for 323 chasing Australia's 348/8 in the 4th ODI in Canberra.
Australia now lead the 5 match series 4-0 and have won their last 18 ODI's on home soil.

Sven Roeder 10:48 Tue Jan 19
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
With Finn out of the 4th Test Plunkett has been brought in from the UAE where the Lions have been practising.

Davenport 10:43 Tue Jan 19
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Excellent ben stokes interview on the telegraph site today.

Sven Roeder 2:47 Mon Jan 18
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
The Australian wickets as VH said have always been what they have been due to the soil, weather etc.
If anything with some drop ins and I suspect some pressure from Cricket Australia they have got slower.
Watch some highlights of England in Aust in 74/75 or the Windies in 75/76 if you want to see some SCARED EYES pitches.

team boaty 2:43 Mon Jan 18
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Bit like how your lot spent months preparing 5 tennis courts for Mitchell Johnson the last time we were over, sven ?

English wickets are quintessentially the same right throughout the counties. Will offer plenty of seam movement in May but come August you`ll have to bang it in to see major results, sod all to do with the pitches though that`s just the seasonal conditions

VirginiaHam 2:42 Mon Jan 18
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
That's the problem though, isn't it? The Lord's pitches for NZ and Aus were massively different, and no matter how hard you try and argue the Aus pitch was an accident no-one will believe you.

Cardiff has always been shit, Trent Bridge will always do something (if ever there was a case of judging a pitch after both sides had batted it was TB last year) and overhead conditions always make Edgbaston entertaining. It's a result pitch too.

I think it's hilarious that the first test in Aus is always at the Gabbatoir.......visiting sides not acclimatised, welcome to non-stop chin music.

Sven Roeder 2:35 Mon Jan 18
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
I have always thought English pitches have been set up reasonably and most of the variation has been due to outside weather influences of rain and cloud cover.
That changed a bit in 2013 when they tried to dry them out for Swann and they got into a bit of a tizzy in the last Ashes as to what they should be doing or not doing.
I think England are good enough to prepare fair surfaces for the best possible game. Like the Lords pitch for the NZ Test.

VirginiaHam 2:28 Mon Jan 18
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
It's a sad indictment of India's stance towards the No.1 berth in tests that they haven't won away from home for ever.

I think the fairest pitch preparation goes to Australia. Year on year, each venue produces the same surface.

I think with English grounds it's harder to tell, although the Oval has been consistent too, together with Edgbaston. Lord's last year was terrible, and that pitch can be set up several ways....just poor they felt they had to produce that pitch when the real answer was right under their noses.

As for the 'Bull Ring'.......what a pitch that was. nThe Saffas royally fucked their first innings up, although we bowled badly. I wonder what SA would have been out for if we'd bowled properly first time around?

Sven Roeder 2:18 Mon Jan 18
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
I just think pitches like they prepared for SA make a mockery of the game and don't help them as cricketers.
They went to England and got smashed and now they are in Australia getting their usual treatment. Didn't win a game of any sort on the last trip and 0-3 down after 3 ODI's this time.
ICC should be taking some sort of control of pitch preparation if countries are going to take the piss.

VirginiaHam 2:04 Mon Jan 18
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Sven Roeder 1:14 Sun Jan 17

Having seen the pitches India prepared for SA I shudder to think what they'll prepare for us, given our front line spinner is MA. It may be our only chance is that Rashid becomes a world class leggie in 12 months or we find quicks who go through the top before lunch too.

Sven Roeder 1:14 Mon Jan 18
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Big Bash semi finals
Adelaide v Sydney Thunder on Thurs at Adelaide Oval
Melb Stars v Perth Scorchers on Fri at MCG

English players Rashid, Pietersen, Carberry & Willey will PARTICIPATE
You'd expect 50,000 probably at each venue

Dr Matt 4:10 Sun Jan 17
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Broad - World Number 1 Bowler
Root - World Number 2 Batsman (behind the minnow basher)

Broad - 3rd highest rating of the modern era * (behind Philander and Steyn).
Root - 3rd highest rating of the modern era (behind the minnow basher and ABdV).

* Modern Era = Players still playing Test cricket.

Two modern greats!

Sniper 2:02 Sun Jan 17
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Lots of criticism of games in his first visit to SA, but what is cooks average in this series? And I'm sure I read that his average away at SA is lower than against anyone else?

Part of our problem is not trusting enough in new players and giving them a proper chance.

Takashi Miike 1:34 Sun Jan 17
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
just watched a 'cricket greats' doc about sir richard hadlee. what a career he had, easily in my top five players ever

Pedro 1:16 Sun Jan 17
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Tom Westley from Essex is the next young star to get a chance. Future England opener.

Sven Roeder 1:14 Sun Jan 17
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
boaty
I am presuming you were alive in 2005.
THAT team didn't have an opener averaging 20 , a near 33 yo no.3 averaging his age or a number 5 averaging 27.

To match McGrath Steven Finn would require another 450 Test wickets at 19.9. Good luck

England's summer involves Sri Lanka and Pakistan both of whom you'd expect to be seen off in English conditions.
India at the end of the year for 5 Tests should be a different proposition. I suspect they will be keeping the recipe for the pitches S Africa faced there. Last time when England visited with superior spinners (Swann & Panesar) India felt they had to dial back on the pitch fixing and England outbatted them.
The first day spinning sandpits will be back this time.

Sven Roeder 12:57 Sun Jan 17
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
What is Indian for Groundhog Day?
Chased down AGAIN at the MCG
Perth 309 .... Not enough
Brisbane 308 .... Not enough
Melbourne 295 ... Not enough

3-0 with games at Canberra & Sydney to come

Dr Matt 12:35 Sun Jan 17
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
The Golden Generation are starting to prosper.

Root, Taylor, Vince, Roy, Bairstow, Buttler, Stokes, Rashid, Willey, Harris, Woakes, Finn.

All aged between 24-27.

All beginning to show their class across the 3 formats.

A decade of destruction.

lab 10:59 Sat Jan 16
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
I've no idea of what's going on , plesase tell me current score . Just got in from work.

team boaty 10:13 Sat Jan 16
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Watch Compton`s attempt to put Elgar into the stands for the winning runs tonight Tony Benn, son

Still hope for the sherminator

ray winstone 10:04 Sat Jan 16
Re: 3rd Test: South Africa v England at Johannesburg
Time for a Bell recall yet?

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